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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to get a <strong>brutal metal tone</strong> with amp sims? Technology has indeed come a long way but most amp sims fall short when it comes to metal <em>(what I really mean is most of them completely suck!)</em>.</p>
<p>There are only a small handful of amp sims that truly work for metal. And there&#8217;s two particular sims that stand-out &#8211; Neural DSP&#8217;s <strong>Fortin Nameless</strong> and <strong>NTS</strong> amp sims.</p>
<p>In this post, I&#8217;m going to share my metal tone settings and give you a full review of both the Fortin NTS and Nameless amp sims.  I&#8217;ll also include videos where you can hear these tones <em>(with both <strong>6 and 7 string guitars!</strong>)</em>.<em> </em>And you&#8217;ll find several of my hidden <strong>recording tips</strong> within the post&#8230;</p>
<h2 id="tab-con-21">Fortin NTS and Nameless Amps and Features</h2>
<p>Funny story <em>(intimate background music playing)</em> &#8211; I downloaded the <strong>demo versions</strong> of <strong>both NTS and Nameless</strong>, and played through each one for about a week.</p>
<p>I was pretty impressed with both, but I didn&#8217;t want to cough up the money right away for both sims. For my style of playing, NTS seemed to fit me best.</p>
<p>I pulled the trigger and bought the NTS, only to find out I actually bought the <strong>Nameless</strong> plugin instead by accident! <em>Ahhhh!!!</em> Okay, okay &#8211; so it wasn&#8217;t the end of world&#8230;</p>
<p>Sticking to my decision <em>(temporarily)</em> to only buy one, I immediately started digging into Nameless. It took me a little time to really dial in a tone that suited my ears and I began to realize I was getting a particular sound that I&#8217;ve never gotten before. This is something I look for in tones &#8211; <strong>creating a tone that doesn&#8217;t sound like everyone else</strong>.</p>
<p><em>***I encourage this philosophy, big time. Too many guitarists waste time trying to dial in a Killswitch Engage tone or a Megadeth tone, or whatever. Why do you want to sound like someone else?? Why not <strong>create your own sound</strong> instead? &#8211; End of rant!</em></p>
<p>A couple of weeks later I purchased NTS, and here we are today jamming through <strong>two killer metal amp sims</strong>.</p>
<p>But before we get into my personal settings using these sims, let&#8217;s break down the <strong>differences between Fortin NTS and Fortin Nameles</strong>s and go over some of the <strong>features</strong>.</p>
<h3 id="tab-con-11">Fortin Nameless</h3>
<p><span style="width: 100%;"><a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-Nameless-Amp.jpg" rel=""><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" style="width: 100%;" title="Fortin Nameless Amp" src="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-Nameless-Amp.jpg" alt="Neural DSP Fortin Nameless" width="1080" height="423" data-id="2387" /></a></span></p>
<p>The best way I can describe the <strong>Fortin Nameless</strong> amp sim is it has this particular bite to it. This gives it a unique tone, and I don&#8217;t really know what to compare it to other than the actual Fortin amp, which I&#8217;ve never played through <em>(I need to change that!)</em>.</p>
<p>Nameless has <strong>2 gain stages</strong>, and I think this is where that &#8216;bite&#8217; comes from. It also have a dominating presence that allows your guitar to really cut through the mix with clarity.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s built for metal, but you can also get some cool <strong>classic thrash metal</strong> and <strong>hard rock tones</strong> from it. And when you back off the gain, you open up even more possibilities in style. So on that note <em>(no pun intended)</em>, Nameless is quite diverse for a metal amp sim.</p>
<p><em>You can learn more about Fortin Nameless at the Neural DSP website: </em><a href="https://neuraldsp.com/products/fortin-nameless-suite/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>https://neuraldsp.com/products/fortin-nameless-suite/</em></a></p>
<h3 id="tab-con-17">Fortin NTS</h3>
<p><span style="width: 100%;"><a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Amp.jpg" rel=""><img decoding="async" style="width: 100%;" title="Fortin NTS Amp" src="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Amp.jpg" alt="Neural DSP Fortin NTS" width="1080" height="417" data-id="2388" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Fortin NTS</strong> is the most brutal metal amp sim I&#8217;ve ever recorded with. It has this awesome mid-range that gives you that <strong>powerful, chunky tone</strong>. And talk about gain&#8230;it&#8217;s like going to the gym and &#8216;making gains, bro&#8217; <em>(sorry for the pun!)</em>.</p>
<p>Although the NTS isn&#8217;t quite as diverse as Nameless in regards to style, you have more options to shape your tone. To compliment it&#8217;s gain, you have these extra knobs called &#8216;<strong>Girth</strong>&#8216; and &#8216;<strong>Grind</strong>.&#8217; You can play around with those for days.</p>
<p>The NTS sim also has a second channel. This is more for a cleaner, lighter tone. I haven&#8217;t messed around with it too much, as it&#8217;s hard to get away from channel 1.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like having craft beer for the first time (channel 1); you just can&#8217;t go back to the lighter stuff (channel 2). That probably wasn&#8217;t the best analogy, but you get it, <em>hopefully</em>.</p>
<p>This amp sim is perfect for our <strong>extreme genres of metal</strong> such as death metal, melodic death metal, and metalcore. You can really pull off any modern metal tone with it.</p>
<p><em>You can learn more about Fortin NTS at the Neural DSP website: </em><a href="https://neuraldsp.com/products/fortin-nts-suite/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>https://neuraldsp.com/products/fortin-nts-suite/</em></a></p>
<h3 id="tab-con-18">Fortin Cabs and Mics</h3>
<p><span style="width: 100%;"><a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Cab-Mic-2.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><img decoding="async" style="width: 100%;" title="Fortin NTS Cab Mic 2" src="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Cab-Mic-2.jpg" alt="Neural DSP Fortin cabinet and mic - settings for Guitar 2" width="1080" height="606" data-id="2404" /></a></span></p>
<p>Now <strong>THIS</strong> is where most amp sims <em>fail</em> &#8211; <strong>cabinets and mics</strong>. You could flawlessly model the circuitry of a real tube amp but if you&#8217;re off on the cab and mics, it&#8217;s going to sound like crap.</p>
<p>It would be like having the most beautiful boyfriend or girlfriend, but they&#8217;re a complete total jerk <em>(or the &#8216;C&#8217; word if you want to go there!)</em> &#8211; yeah, it just ruins what could be awesome.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this is one of <strong>Neural DSP&#8217;s strong points</strong>. And realistically I think the creators knew that if they were going to model something like Fortin amps, they had to go all the way with the full package.</p>
<p>At first glance you may be wondering why there aren&#8217;t more cabinet choices. And I wonder if at some point they will add this as an upgrade.</p>
<p>However, I would personally rather have one amazing sounding metal cab than 10 mediocre cabs. You do have <strong>several mic choices</strong>, and you can get wide range of tonal changes with those. <em> </em></p>
<h4>Jason&#8217;s Recording Tip:</h4>
<p>As I record <strong>two rhythm guitar tracks</strong> and hard pan each, I&#8217;ll like to have a slightly different tone for that 2nd guitar.</p>
<p>In this case, I&#8217;ll just use a different mic set. Having that subtle difference in guitar tones adds so much <strong>depth and fullness to your mix</strong>. I&#8217;ll get into the mic combinations more when we talk about my personal settings.</p>
<p>*If you want more tips on recording guitarist, I wrote a full guide for you on this post: <a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/home-recording-studio-guide/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Complete Ho<span style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-id="0" data-type="false">​</span><span style="display: none; line-height: 0;" data-id="0" data-type="true">​</span>me Recording Studio Guide for Metal Guitarists</strong></a></p>
<h3 id="tab-con-12">Fortin Stomp Boxes</h3>
<p><span style="width: 100%;"><a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Neural-DSP-Fortin-Pedals.jpg" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" style="width: 100%;" title="Neural DSP Fortin Pedals" src="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Neural-DSP-Fortin-Pedals.jpg" alt="Neural DSP Fortin pedals" width="1080" height="562" data-id="2390" /></a></span></p>
<p>Both Nameless and NTS come equipped with three <strong>stomp boxes</strong> for more gain and tone shaping: <strong>ZUUL</strong>, <strong>Hexdrive</strong>, and <strong>Grind</strong>.</p>
<p>After messing around with these, I&#8217;ve gotten the best (and tightest) tones using a combination of two. What you see above is the ZUUL and Grind being used together. And that&#8217;s more than enough to clean up your tone <em>(remember, these amp sims are created to act like real amps)</em>.</p>
<p>*I don&#8217;t mess around with pedals too much. I like to keep things as simple as possible, so my review on these pedals isn&#8217;t as detailed.</p>
<h2 id="tab-con-4">VIDEO: Fortin NTS VS Nameless</h2>
<p>Are you ready to hear both the Fortin NTS and Nameless amp sims in the same video? Of course you are&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m giving you <strong>three different metal tones</strong> in this video:</p>
<ol>
<li>Fortin Nameless</li>
<li>Fortin NTS</li>
<li>Both together in the same song!</li>
</ol>
<p><em>*If you go to YouTube, click on the description and you&#8217;ll see the times where each tone starts! And please make the world a better place by sharing my video (and this blog post too!). </em></p>
<h3 id="tab-con-8">My Nameless Tone Settings</h3>
<p>Now let&#8217;s get down to the details of my <strong>Nameless amp and EQ settings</strong>. What I&#8217;m sharing is what you just heard in the video above.</p>
<p>Remember, I record two rhythms tracks. My amps settings are the same. What changes from one track to the other is the mics. And I&#8217;ll actually cover that below after going through my amp settings for both Nameless and NTS.</p>
<h3 id="tab-con-6">Amp and EQ Settings</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Off/On Switch</strong>: ON!! <em>(okay okay&#8230;bad joke)</em></li>
<li><strong>Master Volume</strong>: 6.2</li>
<li><strong>Presence</strong>: 3.8</li>
<li><strong>Bass</strong>: 3.8</li>
<li><strong>Middle</strong>: 6</li>
<li><strong>Treble</strong>: 6.5</li>
<li><strong>Gain II</strong>: 8</li>
<li><strong>Gain I</strong>: 7.8</li>
</ul>
<p>*For some amp sims I cut the bass some to leave room for my bass guitar and drum tracks. Your bedroom tone is much different from the tone you&#8217;ll use in the overall mix.</p>
<h2 id="tab-con-14">My NTS Amp Settings</h2>
<p>My <strong>NTS amp and EQ settings</strong> aren&#8217;t much different from my Nameless settings. And that&#8217;s kind of normal for me. There&#8217;s just a few adjustments I made, and I&#8217;ll go over those below.</p>
<h3 id="tab-con-13">Amp and EQ Settings</h3>
<ul>
<li><strong>Channel</strong>: 1</li>
<li><strong>Girth</strong>: 7</li>
<li><strong>Grind</strong>: 6.3</li>
<li><strong>Gain</strong>: 6.5</li>
<li><strong>Volume</strong>: 6</li>
<li><strong>Bass</strong>: 6</li>
<li><strong>Middle</strong>: 4</li>
<li><strong> Treble</strong>: 7</li>
<li> <strong>Depth</strong>: 7.5</li>
<li><strong>Presence</strong>: 6.5</li>
<li><strong>Master</strong><em>(of Puppets!&#8230;lol, another bad pun!)</em>: 4.5</li>
</ul>
<p>*The Fortin NTS (in my opinion) sounds better with the presence boosted, mids cut, and bass slightly boosted. These are the core differences between my NTS and Nameless metal tones.</p>
<h2 id="tab-con-2">My Nameless Cab and Mic Settings</h2>
<p>I use the same <strong>cab and mic settings</strong> for both Fortin NTS and Nameless:</p>
<ul>
<li>Rhythm guitar 1 <em>(panned left)</em></li>
<li>Rhythm guitar 2 <em>(panned right)</em></li>
</ul>
<p>For the sake of simplicity, the <strong>screenshots</strong> below are using the NTS amp.</p>
<h3 id="tab-con-7">Guitar 1: Cab and Mic</h3>
<p><span style="width: 100%;"><a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Cab-Mic-1.jpg" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" style="width: 100%;" title="Fortin NTS Cab Mic 1" src="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Cab-Mic-1.jpg" alt="Neural DSP Fortin cabinet and mic - settings for Guitar 1" width="1080" height="741" data-id="2403" /></a></span></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Mic 1</strong>: Dynamic 57</li>
<li><strong>Mic 2</strong>: Ribbon 160</li>
</ul>
<p>I almost always use the <strong>Shure SM57 mic sim</strong> of pretty everything (and every amp simulator). In fact, if I only have a choice of using just one mic, it&#8217;s going to be that one, 90% of the time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s because of my own cognitive bias, or if that mic sim truly sounds better to me!</p>
<p>In this case, I used the &#8216;Ribbon 160&#8217; mic sim, which is modeled after the <strong>Beyerdynamic M 160</strong> mic (I hope I&#8217;m right on this!).</p>
<p>I tested my tone using other combinations and this one was by far the most pleasing to my ears!</p>
<h3 id="tab-con-10">Guitar 2: Cab and Mic</h3>
<p><span style="width: 100%;"><a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Cab-Mic-2.jpg" rel=""><img decoding="async" style="width: 100%;" title="Fortin NTS Cab Mic 2" src="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fortin-NTS-Cab-Mic-2.jpg" alt="Neural DSP Fortin cabinet and mic - settings for Guitar 2" width="1080" height="606" data-id="2404" /></a></span></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Mic 1</strong>: Dynamic 57</li>
<li><strong>Mic 2</strong>: Dynamic 57</li>
</ul>
<p>For my <strong>2nd guitar track</strong>, I just made one slight change. I used the Dynamic 57 (SM57 mic sim) for both speakers!</p>
<p>This tone mixed in with the other guitar just came together beautifully in the mix. And that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about &#8211; <strong>what sounds best in the final mix</strong>, and for that specific song!</p>
<h2 id="tab-con-1">My First Neural DSP Fortin Demos</h2>
<p>Now I want to take you back to my original <strong>metal tone testing videos</strong> I did for NTS and Nameless! There&#8217;s also some great info about each amp sim, and I share screenshots of my settings within each video <em>(my settings are not much different from what you heard/saw above)</em>.</p>
<h2 id="tab-con-3">VIDEO: NTS 6 String Demo</h2>
<p>This is my very first video demoing the <strong>Neural DSP Fortin NTS</strong>. I saw that most videos and tone demos were done with either 7 string guitars or downtuned guitars. So I wanted everyone to hear what this amp sounded like using a <strong>6 string in standard tuning</strong>!</p>
<h2 id="tab-con-5">VIDEO: NTS 7 String Demo</h2>
<p>After doing the 6 string demo of the Fortin NTS, I knew I needed to put something out there using my <strong>7 string guitar</strong>. So about a week later, I recorded this&#8230;</p>
<p>**Read about my tips on transitioning from a 6 string to a 7 string guitar in this post: <a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/6-to-7-string/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>How to Transition from 6 to 7 String Guitar: 3 Simple Tips</strong></a></p>
<h2 id="tab-con-19">VIDEO: Nameless 6 and 7 String Demo</h2>
<p>About a month after recording my first videos for Fortin NTS, I wanted to put something out there featuring the <strong>Nameless amp sim metal tones</strong>.</p>
<p>And I compiled both <strong>6 and 7 string</strong> guitar tones in this video.</p>
<p><em>**Forgive my voice in this video! I was recovering from a pretty bad cold at the time! </em></p>
<h3 id="tab-con-9">Best Metal Amp Sims?</h3>
<p>Over my many years of being a metal guitarist, I&#8217;ve never really been a &#8216;fanboy&#8217; of any particular guitar, amp, or gear in general. And making a statement that any product is &#8216;the best&#8217; is extremely relative.</p>
<p>But I will say this &#8211; Neural DSP filled in a tremendous gap we had in the world of amp simulators. There&#8217;s never been a true amp sim <strong>created specifically for metal</strong>.</p>
<p>To me, metal is a genre that needs special attention. And this is why most amp sim companies fall short when it comes to metal tones. They try to please the masses by modeling a ton of amps for every genre.</p>
<p>So I admire Neural DSP for focusing not only on creating a <strong>true metal amp simulator</strong> but narrowing it down to modeling one of the most brutal-sounding metal amp manufacturers around &#8211; <em><strong>Fortin</strong></em>.  ​</p>
<p>At this point in time, I&#8217;ve never played through an actual Fortin amp <em>(believe I said this earlier&#8230;I need to change that!!)</em>. So I can&#8217;t attest to whether these sims play and feel like the real thing.</p>
<p>But what I do know is that the Fortin <strong>NTS</strong> and <strong>Nameless</strong> amp sims are pro-quality and <strong>perfect for any genre of metal</strong>. In fact, I wish I had stumbled upon the sims before I had recorded my most recent album. I would have more than likely have used the NTS for my rhythm tracks.</p>
<p>Keep it Metal,</p>
<p>Jason</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com/fortin-nts-and-nameless/">Fortin NTS and Nameless: Brutal Metal Tones (Neural DSP Amp Sims)</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.jasonstallworth.com">Jason Stallworth</a>.</p>
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